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egalitarianforequality:

I agree: just because something is cultural and religious doesn’t make it morally correct. But it also isn’t morally correct for you to judge an entire person’s life and belief system on a single outward appearance.

Do you think that this woman thinks our society is morally correct, letting women walk around in booty shorts and crop tops? For her, she’s probably looking at the majority of Western women and thinking the exact thing you are: “wow, what a misogynistic society those women must live in, look how oppressed they are, objectifying and hypersexualizing their bodies”. 

When you get down to it, the problem here is that there is a divide in cultural understanding. For this woman, she most likely either A) doesn’t see a burka as misogynistic, B) doesn’t mind living in a misogynistic society, or C) wouldn’t be wearing a burka in the first place. Which are all valid options that you should be supporting, if you’re going to call yourself a feminist.

Again, there are women who have chosen not to wear a burka because they do see it as misogynistic, but that’s their individual belief and opinion. Just like their beliefs should be respected, so should this woman’s. If she doesn’t see a burka as a misogynistic statement or if she doesn’t mind it being a misogynistic statement, then regardless of how much you disagree, her beliefs are still valid and should be respected and fought for if you’re going to call yourself a supporter of the rights of women.

I could ask you the same question that you ask me: why don’t you give me some statistics or tell me why your assumption is more likely than mine? I’ve given you my reasoning and I’d like to hear yours.

Once again you attribute things to me that I haven’t mentioned. I didn’t call myself a feminist, nor am I one. In fact, I’m not a  ______ist of any kind and I don’t subscribe to any ______isms. Someone who preaches any idealogy is tyrannical because they assume that what they believe in is what’s best for everyone. I only claim to know what’s best for me, and I’m likely wrong in that most of the time.

Is it morally wrong to judge a person based on their appearance? I don’t think so. This is how everyone make most of their initial judgments. It’s only wrong if you stop right there and lock your beliefs on a person based on that initial judgment. 

And anyway, I did not judge this single person’s life. I’m making a judgment on burka culture.

Moving on, you’re saying that this woman may have chosen to wear a burka because she doesn’t think it’s misogynistic, and in fact, may think our booty shorts culture is the morally reprehensible one. I’m fine with this if this is the case: that she is totally aware and freely capable of making this choice. I know you are because you were raised in a culture that allows free flow of information and education and equal rights to women. But was she?

Neither of us have statistics, but based on what I read about on burkas, Islam, and Arabs, women in this culture still do not have access to the same equal rights and education as men. This is the reality they live in. So I think that there is a very high possibility that for this woman, her choice to wear a burka is, in fact, no choice at all. She “chooses” to but not in the same way that you would choose to. Yes, she doesn’t think that burkas are misogynistic or that she doesn’t mind living in a misogynistic society because possibly, she’s unaware that it is. She’s unaware that there’s a different way of life.

Now, there may be women who are completely aware of these and still freely choose to wear a burka. That’s fine and good for them, and that choice I absolutely respect and support. But I think this is more the exception to the rule. Women asserting their rights in Arab countries make the news precisely because it’s uncommon in their country. So that’s why I think my judgment is more likely than yours.

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egalitarianforequality:

mikonawa:

A Burka at Carrefour

Let us recap what a burka is: it’s a garment that covers a woman from head to foot, leaving only her eyes uncovered so she can see where she’s going. It is customarily worn by some Arab women when they go out in public so that no other man but her husband may look upon her. Only her husband may look upon her. She is his property. This is the ideal represented by a burka. That women are property. So it offends me to see a woman wearing it in public. Even more so in a mundane a place such as the supermarket. Because that requires that I accept this ideal—that women are property—as an everyday thing. That something like that is equally unremarkable as potato chips or canned tuna. “Just another Saturday afternoon shopping for this week’s groceries and oh look there’s a-woman-whose-life-is-completely-owned-by-her-husband can I have a half kilo of chicken please thanks.” I can’t wrap my mind around it. It just feels wrong.

Yeah, but see, it doesn’t fucking matter if you “don’t like looking at it”, because she’s choosing to wear it.

It’s not only cultural, but religious. If you don’t understand the culture, that’s your fault. Why should an Arab woman change the way she was brought up simply because it makes you uncomfortable?

There are women that come from that part of the world who completely eschew that way of life and thinking. This woman obviously didn’t, because she simply doesn’t mind it. So fucking what? If she’s happy, let her be happy.

Frankly, I find it offensive that you’re insinuating that this woman somehow isn’t in control of her own life. It’s bullshit like this that pisses me off. “Oh, she doesn’t even realize she’s oppressed, the patriarchy has brainwashed her, how sad!” Give her some credit and let her live her life the way she wants to.

Hi there! Sorry for the late response to this. I just figured out that I can actually read the text you reblogged and then reply like this.

First of all, never in my post did I evangelize and demand that this woman, or any arab women, change their ways. Nor did I demand that burkas be banned in supermarkets. I was merely stating my opinion and what I felt. Surely if this woman has the freedom to have her beliefs then I have the freedom to mine as well?

Secondly, just because something is “cultural” or “religious” doesn’t make it morally correct. It’s not that I don’t understand or see where they’re coming from. I do. Just like I understand where these Congo soldiers are coming from when they explain why they rape women. That’s their culture. Still, I can’t accept it as morally right. But again, that’s just me, and I’m not imposing my morals on anyone.

Lastly, why do you find it offensive that I’m insinuating that she’s not in control of her life? I crunched everything I know about burkas and Islam culture and made an assumption. You assumption is that she’s not oppressed or burdened by fear or tradition; she freely chose to wear a burka. That’s possible too. But your assumption is more likely than mine because… ?

If you have facts and statistics that most women who wear burkas understand and enjoy the same freedom as Western women such as yourself, then please share them with me. All I know about burkas I learned from western media so yeah, I may be completely wrong and I’m open to having my worldview corrected.

Cheers!

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Related to this morning’s post.

A Burka at Carrefour

Let us recap what a burka is: it’s a garment that covers a woman from head to foot, leaving only her eyes uncovered so she can see where she’s going.

It is customarily worn by some Arab women when they go out in public so that no other man but her husband may look upon her.

Only her husband may look upon her. She is his property.

This is the ideal represented by a burka. That women are property.

So it offends me to see a woman wearing it in public. Even more so in a mundane a place such as the supermarket. Because that requires that I accept this ideal—that women are property—as an everyday thing. That something like that is equally unremarkable as potato chips or canned tuna.

“Just another Saturday afternoon shopping for this week’s groceries and oh look there’s a-woman-whose-life-is-completely-owned-by-her-husband can I have a half kilo of chicken please thanks.”

I can’t wrap my mind around it. It just feels wrong.